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[综合讨论] Model-Paper space clarificatio

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发表于 2022-7-7 14:53:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
I don't know if anyone is familiar with some of the cabinet design software out there but I have one that is called Cadkit by Design Soft. It actually works as a shell over AutoCad. I have all the same tools, tabs, setups etc. as AutoCad they just added some short cuts such as walls already as blocks (I think that is what you would call them) anyway I'm trying to take my drafting skills to some higher levels without the constraints of predetermined settings. So I'm trying to start from the beginning with bringing a border into my drawing so I can print larger format. One of the tutorials I've read was settings done in "paper space". So when I go to paper space I'm taken to my layout tabs. I don't draw in the layout tabs, I draw in model. I can send someone my screen shot if needed so you can see my setup. I hope I don't become a nuisance here, as its not pure AutoCad; but I'm trying to become that.
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:11:25 | 显示全部楼层
Just start by creating your title block in a layout and draw it at 1:1 ie a A1  is 841x594 36x24" and then create a viewport within the title which as above can be scaled correctly. Makes plotting easy.
 
My $0.05 dont dim in paperspace move the object in model and all your dims are wrong, its not obvious when you change something that it has a dim hanging of it.
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:21:06 | 显示全部楼层
Let's correct one fallacy right off the bat.
 
It's entirely possible and in some cases advantageous to place text and dimensions in a paper space layout rather than in model space.  We've been doing it for years.  The only thing one has to remember is to make dimensions "associative" which is not the same as "annotative".  I have no qualms with annotative text and dimensions and acknowledge that in some fields and some instances this is exactly the way to go but it is not a hard and fast rule that one has to place their dimensions and text in model space.  BTW....you can move model space geometry and then reassociate your paper space dimensions with little effort.  Yes, you might have to move your text but that too is a minor task.
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:33:08 | 显示全部楼层
Thanks for your help. I have borders that I have saved as templates and I usually wait until all drawings are complete in Modelspace then go to layout and place border and follow what you said about viewports. It's just that I talked with some architects and they tell me they place their border into model space and put all drawings inside that. I never really asked any further questions it just always plagued me. I will go to your suggested link...thanks
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:39:06 | 显示全部楼层
The way those particular architects are describing it is the only way it could be done with earlier releases of AutoCAD until paper space was introduced.  If they are still doing it that way then it is considered, for many (but not all), "old school" and really not the way to do it.  It also means that if they are drawing everything in model space at full size they are scaling up their title block and border to fit around the drawing then plotting the drawing "to scale" (not 1:1) directly from model space.  We have about two dozen older building plot plans that are still like that.
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:47:14 | 显示全部楼层
I dim in paperspace and unless you move something way off or delete geometry, the dims adjust automatically with only very occasional errors occurring.
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发表于 2022-7-7 15:56:57 | 显示全部楼层
Thanks, it was quite a few years ago that they had made that comment. I just do interior drafting myself but I want to make my presentations more professional these days, hence getting into the AutoCad part of my program
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