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发表于 2022-7-7 16:21:33 | 显示全部楼层
我不会退缩,你也不必退缩。我是这么说的,这让我赢得了硬a$$的声誉,但我认为要么有人认真对待这件事,要么他们出去买一张蚀刻素描,因为它会带来很多好处。
 
我也加载了Draftsight,所以我可以在需要时参考它。你说得对,关于:基本上与AutoCAD相同的命令。
 
C++和Java对完成绘图没有多大帮助,因此您可以暂时搁置这些技能。
 
那怎么办?我们是要创造一个好的,准确的图纸,可以打印到一个可识别和可用的规模,还是我们要翅膀呢?
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发表于 2022-7-7 16:25:00 | 显示全部楼层
使用AutoCAD时的新经验法则是以全尺寸绘制所有模型空间对象。不管你画的是半英寸长的布拉德还是世界上最孤独的吊桥。无论你是在画回形针还是波音777梦幻客机。全尺寸。完成后,我们切换到图纸空间布局。布局用于标题栏和边框。它们也是我们创建视口的地方。什么是视口?视口是一个窗口,允许我们查看在模型空间中创建的对象。我们为视口而不是模型空间中的对象指定比例。关于视口,还有许多其他方面需要了解,但我们暂时略过。
 
当涉及到文本和尺寸时,它们可以放在模型空间或图纸空间中。每种方法都有其优缺点。如果要将这些实体放置在模型空间中,则最好使用一种称为注释性缩放的功能,该功能将确保在从布局打印时,所有文字和标注的大小都将正确,无论指定给视口的比例如何。如果要在布局中放置文字和尺寸,则它们是按真实尺寸创建的。就标注而言,用户启用关联标注至关重要,这将确保您的标注准确反映模型空间中对象的真实尺寸。
 
当所有的说和做,我们从我们的布局绘图比例为1:1。AutoCAD将自动看到视口的内容按指定的比例打印。
 
为了保证准确性,您应该熟悉OSNAP及其使用方法。典型的OSNAP有端点、中点、交点、平行、垂直、象限和中心等等。Orthomode将确保所有垂直线和水平线都是直线和真实的。
 
我建议您在CADTutor上阅读一些教程,因为大多数命令在Draftsight中都有对应的命令。你下载了Draftsight手册(PDF)吗?
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发表于 2022-7-7 16:28:45 | 显示全部楼层
你肯定。。。我喜欢准确的部分。实际上,我刚刚在快照上找到了,这是DraftSight中的电子快照。我分解了矩形,所以我可以得到我的直线点,现在snap命令可以工作了,我的矩形是1320’x 852’8”!我现在删除了那个尺寸。我看了一些关于paperspace和Veiwport等的教程。我有两张“图纸”“工作表1和工作表2。当我单击任一工作表时,我的图片会出现,看起来像是在打印输出外观中定义的。我猜这是图纸空间,这是我打印的地方?此外,我可以像excel中那样为工作表选项卡涂上不同的颜色吗?
谢谢你的帮助
 
附言。不要介意我的纸质空间问题等。。。我刚刚读了你上次的回复。我有DraftSight PDF指南,也许我应该先读一读;再说一次,这可能是合乎逻辑的事情,作为一个男人,我不需要先阅读说明书。那是在咒骂之后。
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发表于 2022-7-7 16:30:35 | 显示全部楼层
方向是给wussies的。真正的男人不需要臭味
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发表于 2022-7-7 16:34:52 | 显示全部楼层
OK...Here it goes...
I need to learn a little bit (I stress little bit because I know people who have 20+ years working CAD, and I don't have that much time) about AutoCAD because of a new project assigned to me at work.  I'd rather not name the company, although it is a very large company on a global scale, sorry.  At work, I currently have AutoCAD 2010, AutoCAD LT 2012, and FactoryCAD 2012 installed on my machine.  The AutoCAD LT is a back up due to my computer crashing with 2010, something about the NVIDEA card...that's a long story which the IT department would rather not be reminded about.  They worked on the problem a long time, spent a lot of money basically rebuilding the machine, and finally just said: "screw it, we'll just give you FactoryCAD 2012, and be done with it"...which actually works quite nice.
Instead of lugging my work laptop home, to connect to the work network VPN, I would rather practice on my own computers, at home (or anywhere) without concern for loosing/breaking/the large size of the work laptop/ having to mess with the hassles which come with having a work laptop, did I mention the size of this monster, it's huge! and I usually buy another seat for it when I need to travel to other facilities; it's a hassle lugging it around. I'd rather just keep it at my desk.  Therefore, because DraftSight is very similar to AutoCAD, I figure the more practice I get, the better I'll be at this new project which was assigned to me.  The company I work for does have training classes for AutoCAD; however, a certain number of people must register for the class to take place, which I have not gotten the required amount of people yet.  Because I must refer to facility layouts designed in AutoCAD, I am picking it up quickly.  However, I've found out in the past, that with large, complicated programs, it's easy to pick up bad habits.  Therefore, the community I'm currently using (you and others), will hopefully teach me procedures, to avert bad habits.  
Now, the factory I'm drawing (we'll say is fictitious), is a very large factory, which has multiple assembly lines, work cells, painting areas, test areas, labs and quality areas, machining centers, and large heat treating areas, not to mention office space, employee personnel spaces, cafeterias, lockers, restrooms, storm shelters, bla-bla-bla...   
So, it's definitely not feasible to recreate the entire factory; therefore, I would like to be able to create a fictions factory, set the factory boundaries, make an assembly line, maybe put a few fork lift isle lanes in, build a library of objects and learn how to build assembly lines with my objects I create (desk, conveyors, overhead cranes, etc...).  I figure if I can create assembly lines here and there by sectioning off various areas of my factory, it will really jump start my learning for work, and make me that much more dangerous.  The sooner I learn this stuff, the better position I'll be in to really mess things up!
My fictitious factory is 1320' by 852'8" (which is a little small compared to the original), and has a nice rectangle shape (which is sort of like the original, only with other buildings kind of glued on to the sides over the years as need be).  The column spacing of 60' x 40' is correct for the original factory.  All the manufacturing areas of the original factory must "fit" inside the Damn columns; therefore, I've been told by people at work, to always set your grid to reflect your factory columns, or you'll be hating life.  So, I would like to make a column grid, with little I-Beam objects at each cross section, and begin to build one assembly line (and only one) with objects I create in my library.  In addition, I would like to have a scale where 1" = 100', and lets put a revision block somewhere for good measure.  As stated, I only wish to build one assembly line in this drawing (due to time constraints).  I figure if I can design one assembly line, I'll learn enough to do other things.  
I do have a wealth of information available to me for learning through the factory Drafting team at work; however, I don't want to appear like I know nothing about AutoCAD (which they already know anyway...it's a great company)!  At any rate, the more I learn the better I'll be.  And you are correct, I'll probably print on 17 x 11, although I do have plotter capabilities at work, and I currently am printing CAD files at work for myself and others, so I am familiar with the printing/plotting part of it.
That's a lot to throw at you (boomerang effect) where are we supposed to start?
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发表于 2022-7-7 16:39:15 | 显示全部楼层
I'm of no help to you if you are going to do this with FactoryCAD.  Sorry.  I have no familiarity with the program what-so-ever.
 
As far as the general concept of your factory goes I think I could help you there.  The column grid line is something I have used in the past when we have made additions to our facility (a chemical manufacturing plant).  The I-beam objects, as you call them, of course are columns usually mounted on a baseplates.  I have no idea how to build/draw an assembly line.  If you were using AutoCAD or Draftsight the objects needed to populate your building would be created as blocks which is more efficient since they can be used in other drawings at a future date.  Never draw the same thing twice in two different drawings.  
 
Do not worry about scale until it is time to set up your sheet (Layout).  Draw everything FULL size.  I cannot stress that often enough.  Don't worry that it won't fit on an 11x17 as that's where viewports come into play.  Heck, if I had to I could draw the world's tallest building and print out (to scale) on nothing bigger than a credit card size piece of paper (you'll need a magnifying glass just to view it though).
 
Not sure if any of this helps or not.  Don't be afraid to tell me to take a hike.  I'll understand.  No problemo dude.
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