Stepping into BIM: some (a lot

freebutterflyx · 发表于 2022-7-8 17:31:26

(I don't know if this is the wright section to ask)

Our company is thinking of moving to a "BIM" style designing. Both our architectural en structural departement work in "normal" autocad. What we currectly do:
- architectural drawing (everything in 2D): plans + details
- structural drawing: overview + details (with the architecutal drawing as an XREF) - everything in 2D
- structural details of steel contructions (with some own (old) lisp routines)
- reinforcement drawings (with soms own (old) lisp routines)

Non of us has real experience with 3D BIM software. I have limited experience in 3D autocad and I have experience with 3D modeling in a calculation software. Some of us use Sketchup for a visual representation of the design, not for making the drawings.

Now our company is considering a swith to BIM software. Some of the older guys don't like the idea very much because they will need to learn a new software and because it is another way of working.

But the main question is: What do we need? I have no idea (also no idea yet if both departements will make the switch at the same time)

I think the basis is Autodesk Revit architectural and structural.
For "my" departement (strutural side of the design) I think with this we can make the basic structural drawings (floor levels with beams and columns, some details,...). Correct me if I'm wrong.
What about the layer structure we currently use?

But then...
what do we need to draw steel detail drawings? Autodesk advance steel?
What do we need to draw concrete reinforcement drawings (overview drawings, shop list of reinforcement,...)? Is this possible with Revit of do we need lets say Advanced concrete.

Can anyone give some advice of point us in a good directions.

halam · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:00:33

Still, I see a lot of effort being done to use Revit for other things than buildings. Interesting to know what AEC stands for really.. I mean what disciplines.. (speaking of Autodesk portfolio)

freebutterflyx · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:02:56

TZ probably most Revit users never heared or seen AutoCAD architecture..
https://www.youtube.com/embed/0Yh4eF8Uthg

RobDraw · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:24:59

Maybe the younger crowd, but not the long time users. AutoCAD Architecture "stole" from Revit after Autodesk acquired Revit back in 2002. Before ACA, it was ADT which went away quickly as it could not compete with Revit or ArchiCAD. Autodesk knew they had to do something so they bought the one for sale. It was a wise decision.
ACA inherently has barriers since it's still DWG. Single-user file access, cumbersome, using Objects while still married to layers and plot styles, the Style Manager is extremely complex, etc. Comparing some of ACA's tools and functions on an individual basis, ACA can outdo Revit any day. But there's a forest for the trees. Taking a step back and comparing the two platforms comprehensively, there's no question which one is the better of the two.

freebutterflyx · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:32:17

The way one can work with files is something to consider. My wifi was temporary out so my Revit says : failure / abort!
Not able to save anything anymore, model crash, shuts down program leaving me with a big pile of **** unclear error messsages.
So maybe TZ, you understand that i may find working offline with smaller models not a bad idea for working moral ..

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