Revit production results - or

erratic · 发表于 2022-7-8 17:37:57

First I'll say that currently this is stemming from an HVAC drafter/ designer that just wants to put out some quality drawings in an efficient amount of time with not a lot of hassle - kind of like in AutoCAD. This is also coming from 20+ years CAD experience here so I am not talking out of my arse. From AutoLISP programming to Revit I am a drafter/ designer.

Thus far my findings are that Revit is a horrible drafting tool (or plotting tool) IMO. From poor representation of symbology to the far too involved annotation tools it is not worth a penny in the long run. It may have some nice features but if our clients didn't require a RVT model we'd NEVER use it.

After using Revit for several years now it still does not impress me. The many steps required to accomplish a simple task (especially regarding display) are simply not worth the time spent especially given the final result.

Not too long ago there was an article/ blog about how the production side of generating a 3D model for use in Revit is far more desirable a task to complete inside of AutoCAD MEP so drafting issues/ headaches are minimized & workflow is maximized. The article focused on keeping your efforts outside of the Revit platform for production & ONLY using a RVT file for submittal of your required 3D model at time of turn in.

Hopefully there are others doing this already that could assist in reviewing the process here so that others, like myself, can start to be more productive in this unfortunate software program that is currently being shoved down the throat of the industry that we work in.

Thanks in advance... I hope.

Note:
Currently using Revit MEP 14 & 15 as well as AutoCAD MEP 14. Learned CAD on v12 DOS a looooong time ago (ITT Tech) & self taught Revit over the past 5 years.

RobDraw · 发表于 2022-7-8 17:52:58

Okay, but a lot of what you said sounded like a beech session. I've heard the exact same complaints so many times it makes my head spin. I did not know that you were a lone user. That has got to be extremely difficult. I've been fortunate enough to get more than enough training to keep me going strong and a lot of the projects I've done in Revit, the model was not handed over.

I don't know about you but when I started AutoCAD, plotting was one of the hardest things to get my head around and, until recent years, annotation, done right, took some finesse. Once I figured it out, I found Revit made those a lot easier. When I started using Revit 2010, we were still doing strictly 2D production work on AutoCAD 2002. That was quite a steep learning curve for me, but I liked every minute of it.

I am sorry if I offended you. Your 2nd post, unlike the first, looks like you are receptive to some words of wisdom, so I am sharing some of my experience making the transition.

As far as I am concerned, both Revit and AutoCAD OOTB suck. They both require a lot of set-up to get your drawings looking the way you want them to. Well thought out templates are key for both plotting and display purposes and take a lot of time setting them up when you are figuring it out as you go. Making the transition is a steep learning curve. When I started, I was doing hybrid projects, plotting sheets from both Revit and AutoCAD, and was able to get both the platforms to put out sheets that looked very similar as far as standards go. It is very doable. If your drawings are schematic in nature and do not have to be BIM, don't overdue the coordination. The company I work for is choosing to do utilize Revit, even if when it is not required. We NEED to build up experience.

HTH, once again, I did not mean to offend as I did not realize the difficult position you were in.

tzframpton · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:01:26

I saw your post on Revit Forum and found it funny that the first response was very similar to mine even with the additional information.

erratic · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:13:31

Venting "a little"? Not meaning to? I hardly believe that after seeing your post at RFO, especially the condescending remark towards anybody who's a Revit programmer.
From all of your responses above, I noticed two things: #1 by your own admission you do not want to work in a 3D environment. You only want to produce 2D schematic drawings in a plan view without any obligation to even a minimal effort of coordination for the contractors - period. #2 by your own admission, you're "fighting" Revit's tools, some of which are the easiest and most harmonious tools anybody could have asked for in a 3D environment.

What I would say to you is to not blame Revit, but blame yourself. Nobody else seems to have a problem with Revit that actually use it in the manner it was intended, which you are clearly not (again, by your own admission). My suggestion to you at this point is to go back to AutoCAD since you're much more productive with it for the type of outputs you and your company produces.

-TZ

RobDraw · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:20:33

My suggestion would be to seek out some training at your local AutoDesk reseller where you can ask questions, discover tips and tricks, and make valuable contacts with other Revit users who can, over the long term, be your support network. It would probably be in your best interest, as well as the company's, and possibly lower your frustration level while at the same time keeping you from beating your head against the wall. Just a suggestion from a non-Revit user.

RobDraw · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:38:00

ReMark,
That is probably the nicest comment I've received (and I'm fine with that) but AutoDesk sellers don't know how to use the software how we need to use it. none of our engineers are ever going to use/ trust its sizing tools & that is where Adesk wants to start. Not worth the time. Not to mention I seriously hate my job these days so I have no interest in a support network. I want out. All I was trying to do here was to find a useful workaround given my situation but all I am getting (mostly) is "your doing it wrong" & "go back to school" - all I have to say to that is HELL NO!

Anyway, thanks again & good luck to all. I can't wait to retire... early if I must/ can.

tzframpton · 发表于 2022-7-8 18:43:25

"Those who do not want to help themselves cannot be helped by others." - unknown

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